2011 WDW Half-Marathon/Marathon Thread

[Christy]

Oh gotcha :lol

Did I already tell you my trick? :lookaroun Keep your remote handy, when you've hit your max reps, hit the "next" button and it skips his blabbing and you go right to the next exercise. Cuts 15 minutes off. So when I see at the bottom what exercise we'll do, I go ahead and do it, and then rest as I need, then "next!" :lol

[jmaxwell007]

Oh gotcha :lol

Did I already tell you my trick? :lookaroun Keep your remote handy, when you've hit your max reps, hit the "next" button and it skips his blabbing and you go right to the next exercise. Cuts 15 minutes off. So when I see at the bottom what exercise we'll do, I go ahead and do it, and then rest as I need, then "next!" :lolWe use to do that all the time.... 60 minutes would turn into about 45. I wouldnt however fast forward while doing plyo. Holy Cow. I never got use to doing that whole routine no matter how in shape I got. I bet it would help my running right now, but if my legs are as sore as they are already during the week, I dont need to add to the stress. That might be a summer thing were I run 3 days a week and 1 day do leg workouts. Right now I have this schedule:

Sunday: long run (8-12 miles)
Tuesday: No Timed short run. Easy Light jog (3-4)
Thursday: Medium (5-6)
Friday: Medium (3-4)

Ok, I know that you guys might be tired of me posting these things, but I think it is a hoot. ESPECIALLY, when you too are right next to each other. Look what I saw on the side of a marathon article on active.com. (see next post)

[jmaxwell007]

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[Doug11]

A 10K race held in high regard around here is the Mobile, Alabama, Azalea Trail Run through downtown Mobile. I signed up for it last year but didn't run due to major thunderstorms on the morning of the race, so this time around, I was really looking forward to it.

Anyway, I was able to run it today and can say that it was a lot of fun. The weather was perfect - cool, not humid, sunny, with a cool breeze but not so that you feel it is pushing against you on the course. There was only one uphill portion, so yay for that.

My chip time was 59:18, which made me happy because my goal was to finish in under 1 hour. I have not run at all in the past two or three weeks, other than in races. That's probably not the best way to train for the Goofy. :lol: At least I'm running the races though . . . otherwise I might not get any exercise at all! :lol

Crescent City Classic (10K in New Orleans) next Saturday. Crossing my fingers to get in two good runs this week before next Saturday's race.

[jmaxwell007]

A 10K race held in high regard around here is the Mobile, Alabama, Azalea Trail Run through downtown Mobile. I signed up for it last year but didn't run due to major thunderstorms on the morning of the race, so this time around, I was really looking forward to it.

Anyway, I was able to run it today and can say that it was a lot of fun. The weather was perfect - cool, not humid, sunny, with a cool breeze but not so that you feel it is pushing against you on the course. There was only one uphill portion, so yay for that.

My chip time was 59:18, which made me happy because my goal was to finish in under 1 hour. I have not run at all in the past two or three weeks, other than in races. That's probably not the best way to train for the Goofy. :lol: At least I'm running the races though . . . otherwise I might not get any exercise at all! :lol

Crescent City Classic (10K in New Orleans) next Saturday. Crossing my fingers to get in two good runs this week before next Saturday's race.WOW. great time Doug. I will have to remember that Azalea run next year. I have friends that live in Mobile and I could stay with them for that. They actually run too so they might be interested in participating as well. Sounds like fun.

[Doug11]

Thanks, Joel. I went back this morning and looked at the official standings and I finished right in the middle of the pack - 1509th out of 2960 finishers.

You should consider this run next year if it doesn't conflict with your schedule. No bling for a 10K run, typically, but they did give out the little gear back packs with the logo and "finisher" at the end, in addition to the race shirts.

A race club from Pensacola brought a charter bus over for the run. Now THAT is the way to go! :D

One funny visual from the race, I'd like to share. At the end of a long straightaway that ended with the only uphill rise on the course, from the distance I could see the blue lights of police cars and what looked like a group of people jumping up and down. From a distance, I thought maybe it was a chorus playing on a stage. When I got up there, we made a right turn onto another street and I was suprised to see only the police cars and nothing else. ???? It took me a few seconds to realize what I'd seen was the "up and down" running motion of the mob of runners ahead of me, running on the elevated terrain. I glanced back over my shoulder and saw the mob of people behind me, which gave me a little consolation. :D

Like Kirsten mentioned in her report on the Princess Half Marathon, it IS a cool feeling to have finished the race, had a beverage or two, and be driving home while looking back at the race course and seeing a solid stream of runners still out there. :lookaroun

[Doug11]

I'm . . . uh. . . going to take a pass on the Crescent City Classic Saturday morning. I will blame the lack of free parking, but am going to go instead to the beach for the weekend. :lookaroun

[Hooker]

I'm being dragged to a 5K tomorrow as a favor to a friend who is desperately trying to get into shape, so I'm running with her. :bleh

[jmaxwell007]

One week to go for my Talladega race... and this past Sundays big run of 8miles absolutely SUCKED! My legs were so tired that it was getting dangerous to continue in fear that I would pull a muscle or something equivalent.

I feel that 2 weeks ago on my longest run of training (12miles) was my peak. I have been tampering since then, but in the future, I might start making that my race day and adding 2 weeks to the front end of my training of moderate days. This happened when I trained for the Mercedes, but I just thought it was a lack of experience etc.

I was so tired, I quit at mile 3. I was so mad that i quit, I was shout profanities. I know we all have off days, I just wanted to have a really good day this past Sunday for a confidence booster like i did 2 weeks ago. I absolutely smoked that 12 mile run that day. I am focusing on staying confident this week and getting my legs back.

Just venting my frustrations...

[jmaxwell007]

I'm . . . uh. . . going to take a pass on the Crescent City Classic Saturday morning. I will blame the lack of free parking, but am going to go instead to the beach for the weekend. :lookarounI might take the beach. :)

[Doug11]

I was so mad that i quit, I was shout profanities. . . .
Just venting my frustrations...

I don't think I've ever run any race wherein I didn't mutter some profanities in the last 25% of the race. . . if not sooner. :lol

[jmaxwell007]

I don't think I've ever run any race wherein I didn't mutter some profanities in the last 25% of the race. . . if not sooner. :lolLOL

This was some major "Duck" throwing and SOB throwing. I just hate failing and that is what I felt as though I did.

With that said about races, in the Mercedes race, I was running past a water station and this girl jumped in front of me and stole my water that I was going to get, it was the last one in the line so if I wanted one I would have to turn around or stop and wait. I was on mile 9 so I didnt want to stop for anything. I let out a "ahhh Duck" and kept running. I looked to my left and not 2 feet away was a dear family friend, my daughters godmothers father, who is basically a saint in real life. His eyes said that he heard me... he laughed and kept running. Later, I bashfully went up to him and told him that he needed to forget what he heard me say. He laughed and said, "I have muttered some things in my running days, but never that loud!"

I still smile and laugh about it today.

[Doug11]

wdwmagic has a runners' forum now. :lookaroun

be sure to vote in my poll: http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=571779

[jmaxwell007]

wdwmagic has a runners' forum now. :lookaroun

be sure to vote in my poll: http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=571779I voted... i think. Ill have to go back and check.

BTW, rocked 'Dega. Hardest race I have done mentally and physically. It visually just beat you down. I shaved 4:32 off my last half time. I wanted 8 minutes off, but ill take what I did and go with it.

[Christy]

Well done! :thumbs

Assuming I ever begin training :lookaroun and I am able to run in January, I could have 2 of my girls run the mile fun run or whatever the thing is a day or two before. :lol The presidential fitness tests are this week, the 12 year old did her mile in 8:23, exactly the time required for her age to get the award :rotfl and the the ten year old did 9 something which I think also got her the award.

The problem will be keeping up with them :blink

[Garyhoov]

Linda ran 4 miles today, for her first time ever!:thumbs

Doug, I missed your poll until it was too late to vote, but that's cool that Magic has a running section now.

Maybe I can use that to ease back in there.

[Hooker]

Here's something the runners to try:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20100506/BREAKING01/100506029/Two+attempt+daily+triathlons+on+Kauai++Oahu++Maui+ +Molokai+and+Big+Island

After you, big boy. :D

[Doug11]

The Disney half marathon has historically sold out quickly. Here we are in mid-May and if it wasn't sold out by now this time last year, it was at the very final stages of capacity. Checking in at the Disney endurance series website, the 2011 Half Marathon is only at 50% capacity.

That has to be a reflection of the economy, right?

I mean, it WAS cold as could be last year, and it did sleet/snow on us . . . but it was still a great race. Why else other than the cost of registration in a troublesome economy would the registration numbers be so far down this year?

I am in though . . . maybe that's the reason. :lookaroun

[Garyhoov]

Haven't they also been expanding capacity? That could be part of it.:shrug

[Christy]

The Disney half marathon has historically sold out quickly. Here we are in mid-May and if it wasn't sold out by now this time last year, it was at the very final stages of capacity. Checking in at the Disney endurance series website, the 2011 Half Marathon is only at 50% capacity.

That has to be a reflection of the economy, right?

I mean, it WAS cold as could be last year, and it did sleet/snow on us . . . but it was still a great race. Why else other than the cost of registration in a troublesome economy would the registration numbers be so far down this year?

I am in though . . . maybe that's the reason. :lookaroun

Oh I read that wrong at first :lol I thought it WAS at capacity now :uh I haven't signed up yet :blush

I also haven't run one step yet :blush BUT I am doing insanity every day and walking the dog 2 miles every night. :lol

[Garyhoov]

I haven't signed up yet :blush

I also haven't run one step yet :blush

:chair

. . . if you're not there, the rest of us will talk about you behind your back.:whistle

[Hooker]

The Disney half marathon has historically sold out quickly. Here we are in mid-May and if it wasn't sold out by now this time last year, it was at the very final stages of capacity. Checking in at the Disney endurance series website, the 2011 Half Marathon is only at 50% capacity.

That has to be a reflection of the economy, right?

I mean, it WAS cold as could be last year, and it did sleet/snow on us . . . but it was still a great race. Why else other than the cost of registration in a troublesome economy would the registration numbers be so far down this year?

I am in though . . . maybe that's the reason. :lookarounAs marathons go, the price is not that much more. I thought we were in economic recovery?


Haven't they also been expanding capacity? That could be part of it.:shrugPossible. Are they creating a new route? Wasn't that supposed to be happening?


:chair

. . . if you're not there, the rest of us will talk about you behind your back.:whistleLike we wouldn't talk about her sitting with us right there at the ESPN Zone table.

[Garyhoov]

Like we wouldn't talk about her sitting with us right there at the ESPN Zone table.

. . . well sure, but if she's there, she can at least hear what we're saying and maybe defend herself a little.:lol

[Christy]

Hey now :lol I have every intention of being there :tongue

40 minutes of working out in the morning and 2miles at night, I am doing what I can til school lets out to get myself in shape. I will start hitting it when I have babysitters and free time :lol

The trick will then be figuring out how to keep it going once the crazyness starts up again come fall. :circles

[Hooker]

I started a new running plan last night--5K run capped off with Krispy Kreme donuts.

Only two.

They were good.

[Christy]

Sure beats the protein shake I have after my workouts :lookaroun

[Christy]

Summer's almost here, I can start running soon! :circles

Aaand for those winter training months, one of Santa's helpers said she would get me an early Christmas present... a new treadmill! :circles :yahoo

Oh crap! And the real reason I was posting here (I got all excited over my selfish news :blush)

I have one SIL who is a definite yes for the half, one brother who's a 99% yes, and two brothers in law who I'm sure can hardly stand to be shown up by the broads in the family :goofy :rotfl So we'll be adding to our group :)

[Doug11]

we're going to need a bigger table at Espn zone! :D

[BeeJay]

http://espnwwos.disney.go.com/about/coast-to-coast-race-challenge

Am I the only one who really, really wants this piece of bling?!? :lol

Now that I have a 5K under my belt, I'm thinking more seriously about these marathons. I would love to finish the WDW half in January, then the DL Half next Labor Day for that Coast to Coast medal!

[BeeJay]

That link doesn't actually have a pic of the medal. If you scroll down, it's on the right here.

http://espnwwos.disney.go.com/events/endurance/wdw-marathon/

[Christy]

Very cool!

Hey, I actually got out and ran last night :goofy My usual 2 miles I walk with the dog, but we ran it instead. :lol It was fairly easy, so I'm not too worried I hadn't done anything up til now :lookaroun :blush

[Garyhoov]

http://espnwwos.disney.go.com/about/coast-to-coast-race-challenge

Am I the only one who really, really wants this piece of bling?!? :lol

Now that I have a 5K under my belt, I'm thinking more seriously about these marathons. I would love to finish the WDW half in January, then the DL Half next Labor Day for that Coast to Coast medal!

Are you registered for January?

In terms of bling, I'm a purist. So far, I've got a solid streak of having bling for EVERY Disney World Marathon Weekend half-marathon . . .( since 2009).:lookaroun

So I'm more interested in continuing and extending that bling string than branching off into other areas.:goofy

[Garyhoov]

. . . my goal is to get 7 and then take a picture of me wearing all of them like Mark Spitz.:lol

[Garyhoov]

Very cool!

Hey, I actually got out and ran last night :goofy My usual 2 miles I walk with the dog, but we ran it instead. :lol It was fairly easy, so I'm not too worried I hadn't done anything up til now :lookaroun :blush

:thumbs

When the dog can't keep up with you anymore, then you'll know you're really getting somewhere.:lol

[Christy]

Honestly I was wondering that, at what point do I decide it'd be too much for her? :lol I'll ask the vet, she's overdue to go in for some shots :blush Truthfully she was still very peppy when we got home so yeah, I have a while. :lol

[BeeJay]

Are you registered for January?


Not yet, but it's more for waiting to have a spare $130 sitting around than lack of seriousness. How many half people do we have here, officially?

[Garyhoov]

Not yet, but it's more for waiting to have a spare $130 sitting around than lack of seriousness. How many half people do we have here, officially?

Hmmmm, I think this list is close:

Me
Linda
Scott
Doug
Kirsten
Brad
Roxxy
Joel
Christy

Shannon and Gordon have expressed interest in the past, but I don't know if they have any intentions for January and I may be missing at least one or two others.

[Doug11]

That link doesn't actually have a pic of the medal. If you scroll down, it's on the right here.

http://espnwwos.disney.go.com/events/endurance/wdw-marathon/

The medal for running on both coasts? I think Scott earned that medal one year, and probably Brad, too. It is very cool. Good luck with your running- we are all here to support your efforts. :D

[BeeJay]

Hmmmm, I think this list is close:

Me
Linda
Scott
Doug
Kirsten
Brad
Roxxy
Joel
Christy

Shannon and Gordon have expressed interest in the past, but I don't know if they have any intentions for January and I may be missing at least one or two others.

OK, well I really want to do it in January. I'll register as soon as I can. No one doing the full 26? I seem to remember Scott doing that one last time and swearing it off forever at that point. :lol


The medal for running on both coasts? I think Scott earned that medal one year, and probably Brad, too. It is very cool. Good luck with your running- we are all here to support your efforts. :D

Thanks Doug. I've gotten over a lot of my mental blocks after doing that 5K. I'm still a long way from a half, but I've found some training guides online and I think I can see how to make it happen now.

My plan right now is to hit a 10K in Atlanta on Labor Day, then join you guys for the WDW Half in January.

I realized after I posted yesterday that I could never get a week off in September for DL because of work, but if I'm still itching for that bi-coastal medal next summer, I might just fly out there for a weekend. And then wayyy off in the hazy future, I might be ready to tackle the WDW Full in 2012...just to say I did it.

That's my grand scheme anyway. :lol

[Garyhoov]

OK, well I really want to do it in January. I'll register as soon as I can. No one doing the full 26? I seem to remember Scott doing that one last time and swearing it off forever at that point. :lol



I think Doug and Brad are both doing the Goofy, so they'll be doing both. Not sure about Kirsten. She may be doing the full rather than the half this year, but I can't remember what she said she was planning.

[Christy]

There's a 5k through school August 1, I might throw myself in there. It would be my first official anything :lol

[BeeJay]

There's a 5k through school August 1, I might throw myself in there. It would be my first official anything :lol

Go for it! I think the Couch to 5K plan (which I used) is 9 weeks long, so if you started on that this week, you'd have just enough time to get through the whole program before the race.

If you're at the point where you're running 2 miles, though, you probably wouldn't need that much time to train anyway.

[Christy]

I think *knock on wood* it should be pretty easy to get myself to a 5k from here, yeah. It's whether or not fate, and my children, cooperate to let me commit to it :goofy :lol

[Hooker]

http://espnwwos.disney.go.com/about/coast-to-coast-race-challenge

Am I the only one who really, really wants this piece of bling?!? :lol

Now that I have a 5K under my belt, I'm thinking more seriously about these marathons. I would love to finish the WDW half in January, then the DL Half next Labor Day for that Coast to Coast medal!I've got one. That one and my DL medal are probably my favorite racing medals. That was a great trip.

[Hooker]

Yes, I swore off the full.....until I turn 50. I'll give it another go then.

[Christy]

Yes, I swore off the full.....until I turn 50. I'll give it another go then.

:blink

You guys are crazy :lol

[Christy]

I have been playing with the mapmyrun site, and if I add in some side streets in the neighborhood I can add 1/4 mile at a time. I'm wondering if I should baby step it that much, or go half mile increments since the 2 is so easy. :dunno

[Garyhoov]

Yes, I swore off the full.....until I turn 50. I'll give it another go then.

What year do you turn 50 . . . (he asks completely conversationally and with absolutley no intention of doing the full marathon at any time)?:whistle:lookaroun


I have been playing with the mapmyrun site, and if I add in some side streets in the neighborhood I can add 1/4 mile at a time. I'm wondering if I should baby step it that much, or go half mile increments since the 2 is so easy. :dunno

You probably shouldn't tgake any advice from me, but I've got a 1.5 mile loop on my route, so when I add, I add 1.5 miles at a time.

Since you're not maxed out, I don't see why you can't add a little quicker at least until you get to a point that you feel you're pushing it.

. . . and if you map out a 3 mile course and you're worn out by 2.5 miles, you can always walk the last half mile.:shrug

[Christy]

Oh wow! I was a slacker :lol :blush

I was going to add the 1/4 mile each time til I did feel like it was too much, but maybe adding more wouldn't be a bad idea.

[Christy]

And, my "running" :lookaroun goes something like this:

Run til I feel like I"m going to throw up, then walk it off. Repeat.

:goofy

:lol I should put more planning into my plan, I think :blush

[Garyhoov]

Yes, I swore off the full.....until I turn 50. I'll give it another go then.


Oh wow! I was a slacker :lol :blush

I was going to add the 1/4 mile each time til I did feel like it was too much, but maybe adding more wouldn't be a bad idea.

. . . like I said, don't take advide from me.:goofy

It's probably better to take it slow rather than pushing it and injuring yourself or something.

If you think it's easy, you're obviously doing something wrong.:lookaroun

I hate every second I'm running.:ew

Have I mentioned you shouldn't take advice from me?:lookaroun

[Garyhoov]

And, my "running" :lookaroun goes something like this:

Run til I feel like I"m going to throw up, then walk it off. Repeat.

:goofy

:lol I should put more planning into my plan, I think :blush

Aaaah, I hadn't read this part yet when I posted. Now THIS sounds more like me. And since I'm a seasoned endurance athlete, I know exactly what proper training should be.:lol

[Christy]

Yeah, I guess calling it easy was taken the wrong way... by easy I mean I made it home, and I didn't think I'd be at that point. :rotfl I wasn't sore the next day, everything (legs, feet, back, etc) felt pretty good while I was running, etc. I'm probably 5 minutes running to 1 minute walking, but maybe I should make sure I've got that right. It could be opposite :rotfl Just kept getting the side stitches, but I think I just ran too close to eating, maybe. I need to get one of those things to keep my ipod on my arm, too. And I think I'm getting me some new shoes this week :goofy There's a store I pass on the way to Kaitlyn's volleyball facility that only does running shoes. Going to see what they can do for me. :)

[BeeJay]

What about the 10% rule? Don't add more than 10% to your weekly total or longest run. Does anyone take that seriously?

I dunno, I'm thinking about upping my long runs on the weekend by 1/2 a mile a week, even though at the point I'm at, that's a little more than 10%. I'm also starting a strength training (pushups) program this week. I just don't want to overdo it and pull something, but an extra 1/2 mile a week doesn't seem like that much, really.

[Doug11]

here's an unexpected treat:

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2010/05/its-all-about-the-medals/

New bling for 2011!

Yes, I am going for Goofy this year. I committed to the full marathon last year, then Leslie decided to try the half . . . but only if I would do it with her. It was too late to convert to a Goofy registration at the point when I committed mentally to doing both instead of "either/or" because, honestly, I wasn't certain I was going to run the full once I signed up for the half. I'm glad I did, though. :)

So it just seems logical that if I've done the half, the full and half of a half :lookaroun then I might as well do the Goofy. But I haven't run a lick since baseball season started, so I am hitting the gym tomorrow (June 1) to get back into the swing.

BJ - my training was anything but textbook, but I didn't abide by the 10% rule. I just set some distance goals and tried to halfway get in a position to do the races, but when I ran my first half marathon, I'd never run further than 8 miles before. When I ran my first 8 miler (tower of terror run), I'd never run more than 5 miles before. :shrug And when I ran the marathon, I'd never run more than maybe 18 miles before.

So yeah, I am not a good coach. :lol

[Garyhoov]

What about the 10% rule? Don't add more than 10% to your weekly total or longest run. Does anyone take that seriously?

I dunno, I'm thinking about upping my long runs on the weekend by 1/2 a mile a week, even though at the point I'm at, that's a little more than 10%. I'm also starting a strength training (pushups) program this week. I just don't want to overdo it and pull something, but an extra 1/2 mile a week doesn't seem like that much, really.

I don't take any rules seriously.:lookaroun

I think it's probably a good idea to hold to something like that in terms of speed. My biggest problems came from going too fast too soon.

But I think it's a lot easier to add distance than speed, so any rule that puts the same limits on speed and distance is probably a bit overly simplistic.

. . . and as I mentioned to Christy, the thing with distance is nothing is written in stone. If you're shooting for 3 miles and you can only do 2.5, no biggie. The extra half-mile walk won't kill you. I think the most important rule is to listen to your body. If your body's telling you you're going too fast or too far, listen to it. That's more important than following any conventions.

[Hooker]

What year do you turn 50 . . . (he asks completely conversationally and with absolutley no intention of doing the full marathon at any time)?:whistle:lookarounI'll do the full again in 2012. I turn 50 next year. Heck, I can't do any worse than this year's debacle, can I?

[Garyhoov]

I'll do the full again in 2012. I turn 50 next year. Heck, I can't do any worse than this year's debacle, can I?

I was thinking you were closer to my age. Ain't no way I'm doing a full in 2012 . . . but maybe I'll think about it for my 50th.:lookaroun

. . . dropping dead at mile 20 could be worse than last year . . . :huh

[Doug11]

I'll do the full again in 2012. I turn 50 next year. Heck, I can't do any worse than this year's debacle, can I?

:uh

I thought you did great . . . maybe my standards are too relaxed. :lol

My goals for 2011 are to do better from miles 18-24. I kinda stunk it up during that stretch. And at the very end, I cramped right around Mexico because I was trying to go all out to finish and my body had other ideas. As soon as I had my mylar blanket, medal and a hand full of food and drink I made a dash for the massage tent! So yeah, I'd hope to finish a little stronger in 2011. :p

After getting the Goofy, I'm kind of liking Scott's idea of doing the full marathons only on birthday years that end with a 5 or a zero. :D

[Christy]

I did the 2 and a half miles tonight, not too bad, but I'll stick with that distance for a couple weeks I think :lol

I got home and Lauren said "Oh my gosh did you get sunburned?"
"No, just went for a run."
"Oh, how far?"
"About 2 and a half miles."
"Hm. How was it?"

:rotfl Lauren :love

But the sunburn comment, yeah... I get REALLY red when I exercise. :blush To the point where people at the gym would look at me like they were worried after I got off the treadmill :rotfl

[Christy]

:blink

http://rwdaily.runnersworld.com/2010/05/bart-conquers-comrades.html

56 miles and that sorry ass medal is all he got? That better be pure gold under there or something! :rotfl

*edit: Best placing american (26th) did it in SIX FREAKING HOURS?!!??!! :faint Good grief! :faint

I suck. :rotfl

[Christy]

Ok, the information I was actually looking for :lol

http://www.webmd.com/osteoarthritis/news/20050629/small-weight-loss-takes-pressure-off-knee

Posting that before I say I think I should really watch the diet and lose those last few (or 10... or 15 :lookaroun ) pounds of "baby" weight if I want to do this.

[Garyhoov]

Ok, the information I was actually looking for :lol

http://www.webmd.com/osteoarthritis/news/20050629/small-weight-loss-takes-pressure-off-knee

Posting that before I say I think I should really watch the diet and lose those last few (or 10... or 15 :lookaroun ) pounds of "baby" weight if I want to do this.

There's no question that hauling less weight around is a good thing in every way imaginable.

Unfortunately that's easier said than done.:lookaroun

I thought that once I started running, those pounds would just melt off, but I don't find it any easier to keep the wieght off now that I'm running three days a week than it was before.:shrug

I've come to realize that it's not enough to run and expect the weight to drop. Instead I need to focus on dropping weight so I can run better . . . and that's not working too great for me.:blush

[Christy]

Right... well, I more wanted backup on my saying I should lose weight, because I always get the "You do NOT need to lose any weight!" Yes, yes I do :lol

I know, it's hard, for me it has always been SO much easier to exercise than watch what I eat, and I've always been able to get where I want to be through just exercise for the most part. If I want to lose a little faster, or a little more, I'll do low carb for a few weeks, it works like a charm, then maintain with exercise. Not saying I eat whatever I want whenever, but I never had to be too careful. Now that's not working so well. Darned 5 pregnancies. And getting older, I guess :lookaroun :blush

I did do nutrisystem once, for a month, lost ten pounds, but it's so expensive. And nasty :rotfl

[BeeJay]

:blink

http://rwdaily.runnersworld.com/2010/05/bart-conquers-comrades.html

56 miles and that sorry ass medal is all he got? That better be pure gold under there or something! :rotfl

*edit: Best placing american (26th) did it in SIX FREAKING HOURS?!!??!! :faint Good grief! :faint

I suck. :rotfl

OK, once you get past a normal marathon, it's just showing off. :lookaroun

Anyone ever read about this thing that makes you run 100+ miles through Death Valley? CNN had a story about it a few years ago. I will pass.

[Hooker]

69-year-old runner DQ'd in London
Associated Press

LONDON -- A 69-year-old man who was credited with running the London Marathon in a record time for his age group has been disqualified for taking a 10-mile shortcut.

Questions were raised after Anthony Gaskell finished the April 25 race in 3 hours, 5 minutes, the fastest ever for the over-65 age group.

Gaskell said he dropped out in the middle of the race because of injury and walked to the finish, cutting out part of the course. He said he never claimed to have won the age-group race and didn't check the results on the website.

London Marathon organizers confirmed Tuesday that Gaskell had been disqualified and 66-year-old Colin Rathbone declared the over-65 winner. Rathbone finished the race 38 seconds behind Gaskell.

[Hooker]

There's no question that hauling less weight around is a good thing in every way imaginable.

Unfortunately that's easier said than done.:lookaroun

I thought that once I started running, those pounds would just melt off, but I don't find it any easier to keep the wieght off now that I'm running three days a week than it was before.:shrug

I've come to realize that it's not enough to run and expect the weight to drop. Instead I need to focus on dropping weight so I can run better . . . and that's not working too great for me.:blush
No lie here....

I read this post while eating my quarter pounder with cheese. :lol

[Christy]

OK, once you get past a normal marathon, it's just showing off. :lookaroun

Anyone ever read about this thing that makes you run 100+ miles through Death Valley? CNN had a story about it a few years ago. I will pass.

I think the normal marathoners are showoffs :lookaroun

[Hooker]

Anyone who runs 26.2 miles deserves something in return, right? I mean, besides a lot of aching muscles. Well, we think we’ve come up with the perfect reward for marathon runners.

If you run the Walt Disney World Marathon next year, you’ll get a day at Walt Disney World on the house. Yep, runners who collect their finisher medals from the marathon on Sunday, Jan. 9, 2011, can bring them back to Disney the next day and gain entrance at no charge into a Walt Disney World theme park on “Marathon Monday.’’

Marathon runners and fans can also have a say in what that Disney Marathon finisher medal looks like. Just go to www.disneyworldmarathon.com and vote for the medal you think Disney should award runners at next year’s Disney Marathon. Voting runs now through July 28 with the winning medal announced in early August.

Hey, if you sign up and vote now, you’ll still have plenty of time to train for the race. On your marks…get set…go!

[Christy]

I just read that! Very cool... what're the chances any of them will want to walk the parks the next day though :tongue :lol

[Doug11]

Anyone who runs 26.2 miles deserves something in return, right? I mean, besides a lot of aching muscles. Well, we think we’ve come up with the perfect reward for marathon runners.

If you run the Walt Disney World Marathon next year, you’ll get a day at Walt Disney World on the house. Yep, runners who collect their finisher medals from the marathon on Sunday, Jan. 9, 2011, can bring them back to Disney the next day and gain entrance at no charge into a Walt Disney World theme park on “Marathon Monday.’’

Marathon runners and fans can also have a say in what that Disney Marathon finisher medal looks like. Just go to www.disneyworldmarathon.com and vote for the medal you think Disney should award runners at next year’s Disney Marathon. Voting runs now through July 28 with the winning medal announced in early August.

Hey, if you sign up and vote now, you’ll still have plenty of time to train for the race. On your marks…get set…go!


Oh, I see you've found this already! :D We've joked about those finisher medals being worth at least a fast pass, and now they really are! I think that's awesome.

http://www.wdwmagic.com/Events/Walt-Disney-World-Marathon/News/01Jun2010-Run-the-Walt-Disney-World-Marathon-next-year,-you%E2%80%99ll-get-a-day-at-Walt-Disney-World-free.htm

Christy, the chances are very good that the marathoners will take advantage of the free day. Heck, I trudged my way through the park on the day of the marathon, so stiff I could hardly stand it at times. Now, I will plan to soak those muscles in the afternoon of the race and go back to the parks the following day! :D

[Garyhoov]

Cool idea!:thumbs

. . . not really thrilled with any of the medal designs though.

[Doug11]

Cool idea!:thumbs

. . . not really thrilled with any of the medal designs though.

We can vote for which of these three medals we will wear . . . which one do you like best?

http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/ewwos/images/events/mickey-medal-voting/medal1.jpg http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/ewwos/images/events/mickey-medal-voting/medal2.jpg http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/ewwos/images/events/mickey-medal-voting/medal3.jpg

I voted already. :lookaroun

[Garyhoov]

We can vote for which of these three medals we will wear . . . which one do you like best?

http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/ewwos/images/events/mickey-medal-voting/medal1.jpg http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/ewwos/images/events/mickey-medal-voting/medal2.jpg http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/ewwos/images/events/mickey-medal-voting/medal3.jpg

I voted already. :lookaroun

I voted for the third one, but I would prefer a simple, classic design like the second photo down (but with year/event):

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2010/05/its-all-about-the-medals/

Over any of those.

[Christy]

I like the one in the middle best. One on the left, the little 2011 tag will inevitably break off, one on the right is kinda, I don't know, predictable I guess :lol

*edit: I'm mildly mentally retarded. I do mostly know my right and left. :blush

[Doug11]

The one on the right (that's your other left, Christy :tongue ) is last year's medal only painted instead of all gold. Here is the 2010 marathon medal: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs156.snc3/18345_1293863940035_1033398114_892644_240855_n.jpg

I voted for the one in the middle because it is all gold and I think it will look cool. :D

[BeeJay]

I voted for the second one.

(Course, I haven't registered yet, so my vote maybe shouldn't count.) :lookaroun

[Garyhoov]

I voted for the second one.

(Course, I haven't registered yet, so my vote maybe shouldn't count.) :lookaroun


My guess is you're the one they're really looking for. They already have contact information for the rest of us, but they just added a new mark to their mailing list with you.:lol

[Hooker]

I went with #2 as well. And that little dangling thing shouldn't break off if you're careful.

[Christy]

I went with #2 as well. And that little dangling thing shouldn't break off if you're careful.

Hello, Scott, meet my life. Life, meet Scott. Scott lives with a life that has pretty well grown children :goofy :lol

[Hooker]

Hello, Scott, meet my life. Life, meet Scott. Scott lives with a life that has pretty well grown children :goofy :lol:bow:bow:bow

:lol

[Christy]

:)

Here will be my first official race.

http://premierraces.com/2010Races/YellowBrick.html

August 1, should be nice and cool...? :lookaroun

[Garyhoov]

:)

Here will be my first official race.

http://premierraces.com/2010Races/YellowBrick.html

August 1, should be nice and cool...? :lookaroun

:thumbs

You ARE officially signed up for Disney now, right?:whistle

[BeeJay]

Alright. I am officially IN! Decided to go ahead and put the registration on the MasterCard instead of waiting. I don't have proof of time from anything over a 10K, so I just put 2:45 in as my estimated time.

[Garyhoov]

Alright. I am officially IN! Decided to go ahead and put the registration on the MasterCard instead of waiting. I don't have proof of time from anything over a 10K, so I just put 2:45 in as my estimated time.

:thumbs Cool!!

Don't worry about the time. You'll probably get stuck back in the slower corrals, but that shouldn't be a problem unless you really want to go fast.

[BeeJay]

:)

Here will be my first official race.

http://premierraces.com/2010Races/YellowBrick.html

August 1, should be nice and cool...? :lookaroun

If you're running 2 miles with no training, you'll blow right through that with a couple months to prepare. And starting at 9 a.m., you shouldn't have any trouble with the weather, I'd think.

[Christy]

:thumbs

You ARE officially signed up for Disney now, right?:whistle
:lookaroun

I'm getting there :blush

If you're running 2 miles with no training, you'll blow right through that with a couple months to prepare. And starting at 9 a.m., you shouldn't have any trouble with the weather, I'd think.

I hope so. It could be really humid, but hopefully the heat won't be unbearable yet. I'm hoping, a couple months from now 3 miles will feel more like a warm up :lol

[Hooker]

:)

Here will be my first official race.

http://premierraces.com/2010Races/YellowBrick.html

August 1, should be nice and cool...? :lookarounDo you have to run in those heels? Good for you for signing up!


Alright. I am officially IN! Decided to go ahead and put the registration on the MasterCard instead of waiting. I don't have proof of time from anything over a 10K, so I just put 2:45 in as my estimated time.
You rock, dude. Glad to see that you've drunk the kool-aid now too. :lol

[Garyhoov]

So it looks like our list is now:


BJ
Brad
Doug
Gary
Joel
Kirsten
Linda
Roxxy
Scott

I left Christy off since she isn't registered yet.:tongue

[Garyhoov]

. . . and if Joy, Leslie and a few other +1's show up, we're going to have to get a heckuva big table.:huh

[Garyhoov]

If we get enough people, are there any special Disney things we can do? Like can we get a party room or something?:shrug

[Christy]

So it looks like our list is now:


BJ
Brad
Doug
Gary
Joel
Kirsten
Linda
Roxxy
Scott

I left Christy off since she isn't registered yet.:tongue
Hmph! Hoping to get my brother to commit still. :um

. . . and if Joy, Leslie and a few other +1's show up, we're going to have to get a heckuva big table.:huh

Or, if you're my family, the usual size table :lookaroun

[Christy]

Just looked at the race map, should be a nice run, right along the river :)

I will look to see if there's a half marathon or something maybe in October I could shoot for, just to know what I'm looking at :lol

[Garyhoov]

Or, if you're my family, the usual size table :lookaroun

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

[Hooker]

If Christy's entire family would run, they could have a Rabe corral for the race start.

[BeeJay]

Four miles in 44:37. That's my longest run to date. This is starting to look doable. :cool

[Hooker]

5.3 miles this morning in some of the hottest/humid weather I've ever run in. I was very dehydrated this morning afterwards and took a two hour nap at 9:00 this morning. I haven't felt this bad from running since the marathon.

[Doug11]

With cost cutting meaning no lawn service and My son nursing a broken hand, I've had to resume lawn services around the homestead. After 2-3 hours in the heat & humidity, it is hard to find energy/motivation to do even a 30 minute run

But today...2011 Goofy training begins. (And this time, I really mean it!) :lol

Yes, BJ. If you can run 4 miles at that pace, you can have a good half marathon experience. That's almost 1/3 of the race and it is only early June. Good job.

[Christy]

Four miles in 44:37. That's my longest run to date. This is starting to look doable. :cool

Glad to hear it. I have a major mental block right now. I'm supposed to do 5x this? :lol

[BeeJay]

Glad to hear it. I have a major mental block right now. I'm supposed to do 5x this? :lol

I know that feeling well. Here's something I've noticed: It seems like the feeling of "OMG THIS SUCKS PLEASE KILL ME" misery that sets in around...oh, 30 feet :lookaroun...is roughly the same feeling I have at the end of a 3 or 4-mile run. It doesn't seem to increase in proportion to distance. So basically, you just have to learn to deal with the initial misery and you're good. :D

It really does get easier with time though. You won't even notice it unless you're timing yourself. My first mile split was 9:30 yesterday. That was a couple days after I just eked out 11 minutes on that front mile. I didn't feel like I had pushed myself anymore, so it just has to be my body naturally adopting that pace. :shrug

[Christy]

I know that feeling well. Here's something I've noticed: It seems like the feeling of "OMG THIS SUCKS PLEASE KILL ME" misery that sets in around...oh, 30 feet :lookaroun...is roughly the same feeling I have at the end of a 3 or 4-mile run. It doesn't seem to increase in proportion to distance. So basically, you just have to learn to deal with the initial misery and you're good. :D

It really does get easier with time though. You won't even notice it unless you're timing yourself. My first mile split was 9:30 yesterday. That was a couple days after I just eked out 11 minutes on that front mile. I didn't feel like I had pushed myself anymore, so it just has to be my body naturally adopting that pace. :shrug

:rotfl So comforting!

Another problem is, I am not running twice, so I take the :lookaroun damn :lookaroun dog with me. She is not a fun running partner :lol I may hand that job off to Kaitlyn :lol

[Doug11]

I can't run with our dog either and it is a shame, because she loves to run. Unfortunately, when on a leash she loves to stop and smell this and that, and to pee, and to be distracted over and over again.

[Christy]

I can't run with our dog either and it is a shame, because she loves to run. Unfortunately, when on a leash she loves to stop and smell this and that, and to pee, and to be distracted over and over again.

She doesn't even do all that, she is such a homebody that she's just happily jogging along beside me til we hit the turn that heads us back around in the direction of our house, then I spend the rest of the time tugging to keep her back with me :goofy

[Christy]

How many days a week are you guys running? Are your days off actual days off or do you do something else?

[Doug11]

How many days a week are you guys running? Are your days off actual days off or do you do something else?

When I ran . . . err. . . run :lookaroun I run 4 days a week in the summer and ramp up to 5 days in the fall. On my days off, I took the day off but am hoping to do more cross training this year.

With graduation and all these season ending all-star games and activities, and unusual stuff going on at work, I'm having a hard time getting into a routine, but things should start to cooperate this week. :)

[BeeJay]

How many days a week are you guys running? Are your days off actual days off or do you do something else?

My current routine is run Tues/Thurs/Sat (shorter runs during the week, longer run on the weekend), strength training (pushups) Mon/Wed/Fri, Sun off.

When I was 5K training, I just ran 3 times a week and that was it. I'm trying to ramp it up a little with an eye on the half.

[Christy]

Ok... I bet, when they say most beginners make the mistake of overdoing it, it's not one run at a time, but too many runs back to back. I feel like I should run today, but I know I should not :lol

I think my days off, for the time being, I will keep doing my pilates and stretching. Gotta get that core back together. Darned kids :goofy

[Hooker]

How many days a week are you guys running? Are your days off actual days off or do you do something else?

Right now, with "nothing" to run for, 3 days a week. When I start training for January, I'll go to 5 days a week, with my long runs on Saturday, taking Friday and Sunday off.

[xfkirsten]

*pokes head in*

So I've been lazy and have only been running once a week. With two weeks to go before my first full marathon. :whistle I did make it through my 20-mile training run on Sunday, though! The last three miles were tough - my hip flexor's been bothering me the last couple of weeks, so I've been trying to pay attention to how I run on it. And how I sit in awkward positions in my safari truck. :lol: I made it through, though! Tapering now, gonna get a 12-miler in this weekend, I think...

[BeeJay]

Half marathon is now 60% full, according to Disney. It was listed at 50% a week ago.

[Garyhoov]

Since Linda will be there in January, I'm trying to decide if I should run with her. My first year, I did a 2:47. Last year I did a 2:31. My long-term plan was: 2:20 in 2011, 2:10 in 2012 and 2:00 in 2013.

I've been doing some runs with Linda on weekends, and she can do about 4 miles at a pace that would probably be close to what I did my first year. Since Linda doesn't have as much weight to haul around as me and since she seems to be making some good progress, she'll probably be able to run a decent pace, but not quite as fast as I'd be able by then. I'm thinking I might just take it easy, run with her in 2011 and then still shoot for 2:10 in 2012.

I think my biggest concern right now is that if I go with her, I'll be way back in the corrals and stuck behind all the slow people again (though if I'm just taking it easy, I guess I shouldn't let that bother me:shrug . . . though logic may not come into it and I still may find myself annoyed dealing with all the traffic:blush).

. . . of course if I do run with her, it will make it tougher on Linda. She's not going to be able to hop on the bus as easy if I'm there.:whistle

[Christy]

Since Linda will be there in January, I'm trying to decide if I should run with her. My first year, I did a 2:47. Last year I did a 2:31. My long-term plan was: 2:20 in 2011, 2:10 in 2012 and 2:00 in 2013.

I've been doing some runs with Linda on weekends, and she can do about 4 miles at a pace that would probably be close to what I did my first year. Since Linda doesn't have as much weight to haul around as me and since she seems to be making some good progress, she'll probably be able to run a decent pace, but not quite as fast as I'd be able by then. I'm thinking I might just take it easy, run with her in 2011 and then still shoot for 2:10 in 2012.

I think my biggest concern right now is that if I go with her, I'll be way back in the corrals and stuck behind all the slow people again (though if I'm just taking it easy, I guess I shouldn't let that bother me:shrug . . . though logic may not come into it and I still may find myself annoyed dealing with all the traffic:blush).

. . . of course if I do run with her, it will make it tougher on Linda. She's not going to be able to hop on the bus as easy if I'm there.:whistle

I was gonna say... I thought she was my bus buddy :goofy Do they serve cocktails on the bus? :lookaroun

If it were me, looking at it from either person's side, I'd just as soon run by myself :lol But, I say that never having run with anybody. But yeah, I would likely not feel like talking (as I don't now, with my easy stuff I do) and I'd just as soon be along, I don't know. Everybody's different.

[xfkirsten]

Well, I'm down to 6 days before the marathon... getting nervous!! My left hip has been getting sore lately, so I've definitely been taking it easy, even easier than the taper I'd planned. I don't think the rigorous, semi-unplanned trampoline class workout I got the other day helped, either. :lol (I usually have to split my time with 2-3 other people, but I was the only one there... so I got a hard workout!) But I'm getting packed, and I leave for Seattle on Tuesday, and the race is Saturday morning! High of 65, low of 52. Rock on, Seattle! :punk

[Christy]

Good luck! :)

I might as well go ahead and sign up, the MIL got us all season passes, gotta make them cost effective now :lookaroun

[Hooker]

Well, I'm down to 6 days before the marathon... getting nervous!! My left hip has been getting sore lately, so I've definitely been taking it easy, even easier than the taper I'd planned. I don't think the rigorous, semi-unplanned trampoline class workout I got the other day helped, either. :lol (I usually have to split my time with 2-3 other people, but I was the only one there... so I got a hard workout!) But I'm getting packed, and I leave for Seattle on Tuesday, and the race is Saturday morning! High of 65, low of 52. Rock on, Seattle! :punkSM is with you in spirit! Knock em dead, Kirsten and good luck....run like the wind.

[Doug11]

trampoline class! :lol That's awesome. :D Best of luck in Seattle!

How's everybody else's training going? I keep looking at the wall and seeing that Mickey Mouse medal and thinking of all the training I put in last year, and I want to crank my training into a higher gear, so will remain optimistic for the future. :lookaroun

[Christy]

trampoline class! :lol That's awesome. :D Best of luck in Seattle!

How's everybody else's training going? I keep looking at the wall and seeing that Mickey Mouse medal and thinking of all the training I put in last year, and I want to crank my training into a higher gear, so will remain optimistic for the future. :lookaroun

Does walking around the MK til 1 am count as training? :lookaroun

[Doug11]

Does walking around the MK til 1 am count as training? :lookaroun

Scouting. Absolutely! :D

[Hooker]

I've taken up basketball this summer as part of my training, helping Sarah get ready for her jv college ball experience. Lots of quick moves and short bursts of speed. I also may be doing so kayaking this summer, so that will be a good upper body workout and cross-training of sorts.

[pinkrose]

My goal is to one day, make it there to run with you guys. I've been running a little. I have a long way to go. Let's just say that my goal at this point is to be able to run a complete lap around my sub-division. It's a small, 40 home sub-division, so even that's not much. :lol

[Doug11]

My goal is to one day, make it there to run with you guys. I've been running a little. I have a long way to go. Let's just say that my goal at this point is to be able to run a complete lap around my sub-division. It's a small, 40 home sub-division, so even that's not much. :lol

Brad once told me that if you can run a mile, you can run a marathon and as crazy as that sounds, he was right. :) You will get there. :D

[BeeJay]

My goal is to one day, make it there to run with you guys. I've been running a little. I have a long way to go. Let's just say that my goal at this point is to be able to run a complete lap around my sub-division. It's a small, 40 home sub-division, so even that's not much. :lol


Brad once told me that if you can run a mile, you can run a marathon and as crazy as that sounds, he was right. :) You will get there. :D

I can see the thinking behind that. I'm still a long way from marathon condition, but just getting from zero running to running that first mile or 2 was probably the toughest part. Keep at it, Eliz. If you get serious about training, check out Couch to 5K and just go from there.

[pinkrose]

One lap around my sub-division is 1/2 mile. :blush :lol

[Christy]

Brad once told me that if you can run a mile, you can run a marathon and as crazy as that sounds, he was right. :) You will get there. :D

Did the guru give up on us? :sadbye

[Doug11]

Did the guru give up on us? :sadbye

The last I heard from Brad, he was getting over a collapsed lung which had caused him to take a break from running, but he says he will be running the Wine and Dine half marathon in October. :thumbs

[Garyhoov]

My goal is to one day, make it there to run with you guys. I've been running a little. I have a long way to go. Let's just say that my goal at this point is to be able to run a complete lap around my sub-division. It's a small, 40 home sub-division, so even that's not much. :lol

:thumbs:circles


Brad once told me that if you can run a mile, you can run a marathon and as crazy as that sounds, he was right. :) You will get there. :D

When I was first trying, I looked at it like: I know I can 'run' 2 miles in a half hour. I know I can walk 13 miles in 4 hours. From that point, it just becomes a matter of working on pace and finding a way that I could go 13 miles within the maximum time using something that might appear to be running but really isn't much more than a brisk walk.

[Hooker]

I ran today in 100 degree heat index.

Never again.

Never.

[BeeJay]

I ran today in 100 degree heat index.

Never again.

Never.

Yikes, bro. I've had to relax my "no running over 80 degrees" rule lately but 100 sounds like a good cutoff point. :ew

[Computer Magic]

I've taken up basketball this summer as part of my training, helping Sarah get ready for her jv college ball experience. Lots of quick moves and short bursts of speed. I also may be doing so kayaking this summer, so that will be a good upper body workout and cross-training of sorts.

How bad does Sarah bet you in those games or does she take it easy on you....LOL

[Doug11]

I ran today in 100 degree heat index.

Never again.

Never.


Planet Fitness - only $10 per month! :D

I can't run in this heat/humidity. I will do the occasional bridge run at sunset because we get a good breeze blowing off the bay - usually a cross wind, and try as I might, I am not a morning runner yet.

But the treadmill in this weather, with the tv screen and the ipod is the only way I can get by. :)

[Garyhoov]

80°, 90°, 100°, doesn't make much difference to me.:shrug

They're all hot, and I'm going to be sweaty and miserable in anything over 80°, so I don't worry about the gradiations.

Feeling hot is very much a state of mind. The more you tell yourself it's too hot, the hotter you will feel, so it's best to just not worry too much about it.

[xfkirsten]

So it seems like EVERYONE in Seattle is talking about the race right now. Everywhere we've gone today we've been walking by people talking about running the race on Saturday. Too cool. :D Expo starts tomorrow, so I'm gonna try to get there quickly... still trying to decide whether to bring a proof of time and get my corral changed, or just stay where they stick me (aka the back)...

[Doug11]

you GO, girl! :thumbs

[xfkirsten]

Just did a little 3.5-miler. On a hill, of course, 'cause we live on "Cougar Mountain" so there was really no choice. :p Go to actually have a place to get a hill workout in, though! And I'd forgotten how wonderful it feels to run on a nice 70-degree evening. (Scott, you should come run here instead! ;))

(In retrospect, I also probably should have waited more than 30 minutes after eating a HUGE steak dinner, too ;))

[Christy]

Oh I would've been sick all over :lol

That's my other problem, I cannot run anywhere near when I've eaten, which now makes me understand why nobody eats before race day :lol But trying to fit a run in some other time besides mornings is going to be hard. Because I eat pretty much constantly :blush :bag

[Christy]

Running in the morning... bleh!

Running on an empty stomach... REALLY stupid! :sick

[Computer Magic]

Running in the morning... bleh!

Running on an empty stomach... REALLY stupid! :sickmorning sickness? :lookaroun

[Doug11]

I have to say being retasked with mowing the lawn is really cutting into my Saturday morning workouts! :mad

I am home alone today - but everyone will be here this afternoon or early evening.

Thinking of Kirsten as she runs the Seattle Marathon today. Good luck, Kirsten. I know you will kill it! :D

[Hooker]

I broke down and joined a fitness club this morning. Unless I go out very first thing in the morning, it's impossible and stupid to run down here. So, for $20/month, I am now a member of GetFitness. I can bring a guest with me anytime, so Joy will go with me on occasion, or Sarah before she leaves. I hate the treadmill, but I also hate 3 more months of this insufferable heat worse.

[BeeJay]

Sounds like a good move, Scott. ^

5.5 miles in 68 minutes tonight, or just over 12 minutes average. I'm almost halfway to half marathon distance. Confidence growing. :D

[xfkirsten]

*crawls in* I did it!! 26.2 miles in 5:14:51. A little more than I originally planned (I was hoping for 5:00) but just about ten seconds under my revised goal. ;)

GORGEOUS course. You pretty much pass by all the major sights around downtown Seattle - starting down towards the airport, a run up alongside Lake Washington, across the I-90 floating bridge and back, down to Safeco Field and Qwest Field (homes of the Mariners and the Seahawks, right across the street from each other), through downtown, along the waterfront to Seattle Center and past the Space Needle, through a neighborhood with a really really really big hill, then turning around and running back down the waterfront to end next to Safeco Field.

That being said, very very HILLY course. It's a gorgeous view with great music (it's Seattle!) but I probably wouldn't recommend it to someone unless they were confident of their ability on hills. That was what really killed me! Elevation Chart (http://seattle.competitor.com/files/2009/04/sea_10_elevation_chart_v2.jpg) That hill around mile 16-17 is an area called Queen Anne Hill... the scary thing is, we skirted the side of it, not going right up over the middle. And it still killed me! Coming back down that, though, just past mile 20, is where I saw the bets spectators of the whole course: three college kids standing on the side of the road in front of their apartment with beer and jello shots. :lol "BEER! JELLO SHOTS! ... YOU DON'T WANT TO REMEMBER THE NEXT 5 MILES ANYWAY!" Didn't see a runner take them up on the offer, but it cracked me up none the less. And I don't know who the sadist is that designed the course, but running up a hill at mile 25? Really? :P

The downhills where almost just as bad, because my knees and ankles really took a pounding there. I've actually been battling a sore hip extensor for a month now - dropped my last long run of training to give it a chance to rest up, which seemed to work as my hip gave me few problems. But my left ankle definitely held me back... gonna let that one heal a lot, and maybe consider taping it or wrapping it in the future if it continues to be a problem.

All things considered, though, I'm happy with it! I finished my first marathon, and on a tough course at that! And with a first at that distance, it's a PR no matter what. ;) Of 27,000 runners, only 6,000 ran the full marathon today... and only 4,000 of those finished. So all in all, not bad. ;) My parents stood along the downtown part of the route around mile 14-15, then walked over to the finish line and saw me there, too. Dad got good pics, and my mom says she wants to put them on Facebook, so those are forthcoming. Got my free beer (MGD 64... but it's free, so I don't complain) at the finish line, and my parents sprung for a "finisher" t-shirt for me. :) Tonic was the headliner band (they were a 90s one-hit wonder with "If You Could Only See") at the finish line so I kinda half listened to them.

Came home and took a niiiiice loooooooong soak in my parents jacuzzi tub... then tried to take a nap and realized that my joints hurt so much that it hurt to lay down. :p Feeling better now after some hefty ibuprofen, though... although I walk more slowly down the stairs than our 16-year-old arthritic chocolate lab. :lol

Also, mad props to Seattle for their restraint: I only saw two vuvuzelas the whole route. :lol

[BeeJay]

Kirsten, you are my hero for tackling a hilly course like that. I have a couple hills in my neighborhood and absolutely haaaaaate them. Major props for finishing, and that time sounds solid to me...especially on that terrain!

[Hooker]

Awesome, Kirsten! And you're right--that is a PR and you'll likely set another one at your next marathon. Good job!

[Garyhoov]

Sounds like a good move, Scott. ^

5.5 miles in 68 minutes tonight, or just over 12 minutes average. I'm almost halfway to half marathon distance. Confidence growing. :D

:thumbs If you can do that now, I don't think you'll have any problem with the half-marathon in 6 months.


*crawls in* I did it!! 26.2 miles in 5:14:51. A little more than I originally planned (I was hoping for 5:00) but just about ten seconds under my revised goal. ;)

GORGEOUS course. You pretty much pass by all the major sights around downtown Seattle - starting down towards the airport, a run up alongside Lake Washington, across the I-90 floating bridge and back, down to Safeco Field and Qwest Field (homes of the Mariners and the Seahawks, right across the street from each other), through downtown, along the waterfront to Seattle Center and past the Space Needle, through a neighborhood with a really really really big hill, then turning around and running back down the waterfront to end next to Safeco Field.

That being said, very very HILLY course. It's a gorgeous view with great music (it's Seattle!) but I probably wouldn't recommend it to someone unless they were confident of their ability on hills. That was what really killed me! Elevation Chart (http://seattle.competitor.com/files/2009/04/sea_10_elevation_chart_v2.jpg) That hill around mile 16-17 is an area called Queen Anne Hill... the scary thing is, we skirted the side of it, not going right up over the middle. And it still killed me! Coming back down that, though, just past mile 20, is where I saw the bets spectators of the whole course: three college kids standing on the side of the road in front of their apartment with beer and jello shots. :lol "BEER! JELLO SHOTS! ... YOU DON'T WANT TO REMEMBER THE NEXT 5 MILES ANYWAY!" Didn't see a runner take them up on the offer, but it cracked me up none the less. And I don't know who the sadist is that designed the course, but running up a hill at mile 25? Really? :P

The downhills where almost just as bad, because my knees and ankles really took a pounding there. I've actually been battling a sore hip extensor for a month now - dropped my last long run of training to give it a chance to rest up, which seemed to work as my hip gave me few problems. But my left ankle definitely held me back... gonna let that one heal a lot, and maybe consider taping it or wrapping it in the future if it continues to be a problem.

All things considered, though, I'm happy with it! I finished my first marathon, and on a tough course at that! And with a first at that distance, it's a PR no matter what. ;) Of 27,000 runners, only 6,000 ran the full marathon today... and only 4,000 of those finished. So all in all, not bad. ;) My parents stood along the downtown part of the route around mile 14-15, then walked over to the finish line and saw me there, too. Dad got good pics, and my mom says she wants to put them on Facebook, so those are forthcoming. Got my free beer (MGD 64... but it's free, so I don't complain) at the finish line, and my parents sprung for a "finisher" t-shirt for me. :) Tonic was the headliner band (they were a 90s one-hit wonder with "If You Could Only See") at the finish line so I kinda half listened to them.

Came home and took a niiiiice loooooooong soak in my parents jacuzzi tub... then tried to take a nap and realized that my joints hurt so much that it hurt to lay down. :p Feeling better now after some hefty ibuprofen, though... although I walk more slowly down the stairs than our 16-year-old arthritic chocolate lab. :lol

Also, mad props to Seattle for their restraint: I only saw two vuvuzelas the whole route. :lol

Congratulations!!:yahoo

[Doug11]

Great report, Kirsten. I feel like I was there, only without the sore joints. :p

Way to go!

props to you, too, BJ - you are well ahead of my training regimen for my first half marathon. No doubt you will kick butt!

[Christy]

Scott, smart move :thumbs

BJ :thumbs Great progress!

Kirsten! :circles :yahoo I am in awe, way to go!

[xfkirsten]

Thanks, everyone! Definitely feeling better this morning... knees are working better, and now it's just the normal soreness after any big run. 'Course, I also haven't tried to go down stairs yet. ;)

[Christy]

Slide the banister :lol

[pinkrose]

Congratulations Kristen!!! :yahoo :rotfl at the Beer and Jello Shots!!!

[xfkirsten]

Slide the banister :lol

The hard part, then, is lifting my leg up over the bannister! :lol

[Christy]

Well, as I said on facebook, I finally did 3 miles tonight :blush 40ish minutes... if I shave off 13 minutes i can be on par with Kaitlyn's time 2 years ago :blink :lol

Think I'll stick with this distance until I do start making better time of it. My legs are always cramping up at the end. Not sure what to do about that.

[Doug11]

That's great, Christy!

Maybe eat a banana?

Keep it up though. :). You are doing awesome.

[Christy]

Yes, I haven't been taking my vitamins. I'm going to stop today and get new shoes and new vitamins. I've been taking Andy's because I'm too forgetful to get my own :lookaroun :blush I'm sure I'm probably low on iron too.

[Hooker]

Maybe more hydration, more potassium, and make sure you're stretched before you run and cool down with a short walk. Those things always help me.

[Doug11]

its hard to avoid dehydration during this time of year. Water, water and more water!

[Christy]

Ah stretching... :blush I'm bad about that :lol

I bought myself a 3 mile milestone reward today... new shoes and custom orthotics :lol They feel lovely on my feet as I'm just sitting in them right now. I went to the roadrunner sports place I'd posted a while back, they did a map of my feet as I stood on a pad, I actually have very high arches, but then they did video of me jogging, and my feet flatten way out each step. My ankles are also going two totally different directions :blink So I am in a neutral shoe with a custom orthotic. She said my shoes should be good 400 to 500 miles and the orthotic for 1000. I have 30 days to take them back if I don't like them.

[Hooker]

Ah stretching... :blush I'm bad about that :lol

I bought myself a 3 mile milestone reward today... new shoes and custom orthotics :lol They feel lovely on my feet as I'm just sitting in them right now. I went to the roadrunner sports place I'd posted a while back, they did a map of my feet as I stood on a pad, I actually have very high arches, but then they did video of me jogging, and my feet flatten way out each step. My ankles are also going two totally different directions :blink So I am in a neutral shoe with a custom orthotic. She said my shoes should be good 400 to 500 miles and the orthotic for 1000. I have 30 days to take them back if I don't like them.Well, my idea of stretcfhing is walking 1/4 mile before I start running and finishing the same.

What brand of shoes? In fact, what shoe does everyone wear and why?

[Christy]

Ok, they're Nike Pegasus, the newest model, and honestly I was crossing my fingers that another pair would fit better. They are just really unattractive :lol but every other shoe I put on had a spot where it pinched or poked or just didn't feel good, these felt great IMMEDIATELY :)

[Doug11]

I wear Spira because they don't make my feet hurt no matter how far I run.

[Christy]

That's where the test will really be, I haven't run in them yet, the dog and I took our walk last night, and they were fine, but tonight or tomorrow I'll see if they are good for a run. :lol

[Christy]

Hey hey, 3 miles, 30 minutes. Hello new shoes, my new best friends :love

[xfkirsten]

Sure, give all the credit to your shoes! ;)

[Christy]

Ha! Yes, well I didn't do anything else to get rid of ten minutes between Monday and last night :lol

[Garyhoov]

Hey hey, 3 miles, 30 minutes. Hello new shoes, my new best friends :love

:tongue

You suck.

:lol


I'm sorry, but this is just getting ridiculous. Am I really that fat and slow that no matter how hard I work I will always be the slowest person around?:bag

[Christy]

:hugs I am ok for 3 miles.... adding ten on is where you've still got me :lol

What I don't get is how do I now trust the treadmill? Or is it mapmyrun that is off? Because anytime I've run on the treadmill I am killing myself for a ten minute mile, on the road it was not so bad. :dunno

[Christy]

Going to run this morning, WITH food in my belly, but withOUT the dog :lol

I feel kinda bad leaving her behind, :blush but I think I'll just do walks with her and runs by myself. It's aggrivating enough without her pulling and tripping me (of course she may be the secret to getting it done so fast already :lookaroun )

We walked late last night, it was the worst walk ever. Fireworks had already started and everybody in Columbus must've been crashing their cars because there were sirens almost nonstop :blink I'd never heard anything like it. She was trying to claw her way home the entire time.

[Doug11]

it is tough for me to run with our family dog ( :lookaroun ) even though she loves to run because she wants to stop and sniff or jerks this way or that or gets up under my feet. But she is a hound and NEEDS to run, so the compromise is that Leslie or I will play fetch with her until she lets us know she is done and we will take her for walks, but when it is my time to run, I do that on my own. :)

[BeeJay]

I have a pair of Saucony's that I got a month or so ago. I don't know anything about shoes; I just went into Rack Room and told them I wanted a good running shoe. They showed me a couple brands, and I liked the feel of these the best. :shrug

I also did a little searching online before I went to the store and found images that let you determine what kind of stride you have by the wear on your soles. My wear was in the "normal" pattern, so I figured I didn't need anything too special.

[Christy]

it is tough for me to run with our family dog ( :lookaroun ) even though she loves to run because she wants to stop and sniff or jerks this way or that or gets up under my feet. But she is a hound and NEEDS to run, so the compromise is that Leslie or I will play fetch with her until she lets us know she is done and we will take her for walks, but when it is my time to run, I do that on my own. :)

:rotfl Emily's family dog? :goofy

[Garyhoov]

I just went to the place Scott and Brad rocommended (Fleet Feet?), and told them to tell me what I need. I've got New-Balance something-or-others and whenever I need new ones I just go to the store and tell them to give me the current equivalent (it seems like they make minor revisions to the model each year and sometimes change the number).

[Doug11]

:rotfl Emily's family dog? :goofy

you caught that, did ya? :tongue

I used to take her for a run across the bridge, but too many other people didn't clean up after their dogs and now the dogs are banned from the bridge.

[Hooker]

I used to wear Asics all the time, but I went to a shoe store and they watched me walk and run and put me in Sauconys. They have an arch-lock when you lace them up that it feels like the top of the shoe binds across the top of your foot. I was sold the instant I felt it. I've worn nothing else since then and am currently on my fourth pair in three years.

[Christy]

Run to day was H.E.L.L. :faint How do you guys in Florida do it?! Or anywhere south of Columbus Ohio really :rotfl

Plus I think I am still hungover from Saturday :blush :bag Such a lightweight... I told Andy I'm pretty sure I was sweating 80 proof :lol :lookaroun

[Doug11]

Run to day was H.E.L.L. :faint How do you guys in Florida do it?! Or anywhere south of Columbus Ohio really :rotfl

Plus I think I am still hungover from Saturday :blush :bag Such a lightweight... I told Andy I'm pretty sure I was sweating 80 proof :lol :lookaroun

I'm not saying you have to be able to run while sweating out 80 proof to do Disney endurance races, but it helps! :lol

Seriously, running is great for burning off those "night before" alcohol calories. :D

[Hooker]

4 straight days of rain here, more tomorrow, a trip to ATL, and a youth mission trip. I think I've just taken a two week break from running. Maybe my body will benefit from the rest.

[Christy]

So morning run was REALLY good, I had a yogurt and some water before I took off, that seemed to agree with my tummy, and the weather wasn't nasty yet :thumbs

Here's what I'm wondering. I forget how long I've even been doing 3 miles :blush but the loop that I'll use to add adds .62 miles to my trip, should I go for it? I only ask because, as quick as I seem to be able to run it, I still have to stop twice to walk in the middle. Should I work on pacing the 3 miles better to where I don't have to walk before adding more distance in? :shrug

[Christy]

Well heck with all of ya then :lookaroun

I went 3.25 miles today :rotfl Woo! And I think Andy took my ipod to work :mad so I ran music-less... honestly I somehow think it was easier (if more boring) than running WITH the music :dunno Could also be the green tea supplement I took before I set out this morning :goofy I was running off my caffeine buzz :lol

I think I'm going to start taking a joint supplement. Nothing hurts really, but it's more a sensation of something definitely feels different... like some inflamation just starting up.

[Garyhoov]

Well heck with all of ya then :lookaroun

I went 3.25 miles today :rotfl Woo! And I think Andy took my ipod to work :mad so I ran music-less... honestly I somehow think it was easier (if more boring) than running WITH the music :dunno Could also be the green tea supplement I took before I set out this morning :goofy I was running off my caffeine buzz :lol

I think I'm going to start taking a joint supplement. Nothing hurts really, but it's more a sensation of something definitely feels different... like some inflamation just starting up.

:yes*





*Note - the above was an obligatory response designed to let Christy know that we acknowledge her presence in the hope she won't get all pissy . . . :lookaroun




J/K:lol

You know, before running I heard a lot of concerns with joint damage. I have had times, typically after longer runs, when my knees have hurt a little, but those seemed to come early in my training and it seems that I've adapted and no longer have a problem.:shrug

I have also read some recent studies that indicate that running doesn't cause join harm and actually may be beneficial as long as you are wearing proper shoes and using proper technique.

For the past year, I have also been trying to keep my weight forward and not allow my heels to hit too hard, and I think that works not only for the joints but other pains I have had in my legs.

[Doug11]

Christy, I am such a non-expert that I hesitate to offer advice lest I screw somebody up.

I will do more 3 mile runs than 5 mile runs this time of year, and it wasn't until I'd been running for more than a year that I could really run the entire 3 miles without some jog/fast walk routine, and on some of those early 5K runs in the heat of the day, it wasn't even a fast walk at times! :lol

Do what your body tells you it can take, don't push too hard and you probably won't win any awards but you won't get injured either. Is that helpful?

I agree with Gary's research that says you probably won't truly hurt your joints if you don't go crazy with your training/running.

The biggest thing I can suggest to you with confidence is to just keep going. Keep running, keep making time for your exercise routine. It is so easy to let things gobble that away from us, but at the end of the day, you are the only one who can say whether you will keep going. :)

[Christy]

Thanks guys :) I was so happy to tack on that little extra bit... I forgot to mention that the weather was PERFECT today so it was a nice run! We had a little cold front come through, and it had just rained. Mid 70's, breezy, and the wind was blowing drops of leftover rain off the trees which is very helpful towards the end of the run :lol I was tempted to stop and shake some branches on myself :rotfl

I'm glad to hear about the joint problems related to running being not so much a concern.

And that catch 22 of exercise has finally turned around (You know, exercise gives you energy, but you need energy to feel like exercising in the first place :rotfl ) Yeah, I finally feel good again, only took 20 months post baby :goofy

[Christy]

Knees are still funky, so I did some looking... you're right, nothing is going on with the knee, actually, it's weaknesses in other areas that are making knee problems happen. :lol

So I'm going to work getting my legs stronger and ice my knees after running and I guess I am supposed to warm them up before I go to bed. I've already started taking ibuprofin before I go to bed as well as fish oil and CoQ10. Same 3.25 today, around an 11 minute mile (really humid out, :ew )

Debating on whether or not I will pack the running gear for AZ next week. What time would I have to be out running in order for it to NOT be 90 degrees? 4 a.m. or so? :lol

[Doug11]

I remembered the part about getting a free day in the park, but this other part . . . tell me, is this new?

from the Walt Disney World Marathon Weekend site: "To reward all of the hard work, commitment and sacrifice that goes into training for a full marathon, we'll be celebrating Marathon Monday at the Walt Disney World Resort! All registered participants who complete the 26.2-mile Walt Disney World Marathon on Sunday, January 9 will receive complimentary entry into a Walt Disney World Theme Park the day after the race – Monday, January 10. In addition, there will be special opportunities for Marathon participants to be recognized in the parks all day long! Stay tuned for more details on Marathon Monday as the 2011 Walt Disney World Marathon Weekend approaches."

Opportunities for recognition, huh? If I remember this correctly, we already had this. It was "Look at the guy who can hardly walk because his legs are so stiff." :lol Well, that plus the medals hanging around our necks. :D

[BeeJay]

Maybe they'll honor you by asking you to do a few laps around whatever ride it is you're trying to hobble into. (Stay awayyyy from ToT!!!) :eek: :D

[Doug11]

Maybe they'll honor you by asking you to do a few laps around whatever ride it is you're trying to hobble into. (Stay awayyyy from ToT!!!) :eek: :D

But Tower of Terror is my faaaavorite! We went to Magic Kingdom after the marathon this past year and I don't even look like myself in the photos we took that day - so sore and stiff! :lol

[Christy]

Ok I'm registered. :bag

The thing about having to prove you can do it under 2:45 is obviously not going to happen so I put me at 2:45 :lol

[Hooker]

Ok I'm registered. :bag

The thing about having to prove you can do it under 2:45 is obviously not going to happen so I put me at 2:45 :lolWho will you be travelling with?

[Doug11]

Ok I'm registered. :bag

The thing about having to prove you can do it under 2:45 is obviously not going to happen so I put me at 2:45 :lol

When the weather gets a little cooler, you can run a 10K race and when you finish in under an hour, you can submit that as your proof and move up a corral or two. Believe Gary when he says you don't want to be in that last corral. :D

Way to go, signing up! :punk

[Christy]

I don't know, Scott. It will be down to the last minute to see who CAN come. As of right now, it could just be me Andy and the baby :lol Fly her down with me a day or two earlier, fly him in Friday night and out Sunday, and maybe stay with her til Monday or Tuesday :hehe :whistle

But we'll see how grades and such go for the rest of the girls. I don't think anybody else will be running with me.

[Christy]

:lookaroun

The article I needed to read :blush

http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-520--13589-2-1-2,00.html


One Saturday morning, from the sidelines of our sons' middle-school lacrosse game, I shared my discoveries with Dr. Matthew McCambridge, Lehigh Hospital physician and medical staff president of the Lehigh Valley Health Network in Pennsylvania. "It's all pretty straightforward," he said with a smile. "Weight loss and attending health benefit is essentially a calories-in/calories-out proposition."

He could have also gone on to tell me that grass is essentially green and the sky is essentially blue, but he's too much of a gentleman for that. I pressed for clarification all the same.

"To lose weight," I said, "you have to... eat less."

"Exactly."

"Even if you're a runner?"

"At the typical distances and durations for the average athlete--yes, even if you're a runner."

"But I get really hungry after a run."

McCambridge, who is trim and muscular, had just completed a 12-mile run. "To lose weight, you have to occasionally allow yourself to get really hungry," he said with a knowing smile returning to his face. "I haven't had anything to eat yet today. I'm actually quite hungry."

I smiled back and nodded, but mine was a guilty smile. I hadn't just run 12 miles. I hadn't even run two. And I wasn't hungry either. After a heaping breakfast of cheesy scrambled eggs and pan-fried potatoes, I wasn't even just satisfied. Two whole hours after my undeserved feast, I still felt quite full.


I have 10 (15 :lookaroun ) "baby" pounds yet to lose, and while I'm fine with how I look (really, who cares anymore :lol ) if it's true that a pound of bodyweight translates to 4 pounds of stress on a joint every step you take, I'd love to get those 40 to 60 pounds OFF my aching feet, if I can :lol

[Christy]

Does anybody take supplements that they didn't before? I was just reading about creatine, I always thought it was a bodybuilder thing, but I guess it's good for supplying energy to the muscles regardless of what work they are doing. And, at what point do you start adding in the :sick gel things :sick to your runs? I mean, obviously I'm a long way off at my 35 minute workout right now :lol but I just read on facebook where Brad said he did 12 miles, which is basically a half marathon :blink And am I supposed to work a 13 mile run in before I plan to run 13 miles for real? :lol (if nothing else, to be sure I can do it :lookaroun )

:goofy

[BeeJay]

Does anybody take supplements that they didn't before? I was just reading about creatine, I always thought it was a bodybuilder thing, but I guess it's good for supplying energy to the muscles regardless of what work they are doing. And, at what point do you start adding in the :sick gel things :sick to your runs? I mean, obviously I'm a long way off at my 35 minute workout right now :lol but I just read on facebook where Brad said he did 12 miles, which is basically a half marathon :blink And am I supposed to work a 13 mile run in before I plan to run 13 miles for real? :lol (if nothing else, to be sure I can do it :lookaroun )

:goofy

I think Doug said he never run the full half marathon or marathon distance in training. The training plan I plan to follow starting in October doesn't have you cover any distance over 10 miles in training.

[Christy]

I think Doug said he never run the full half marathon or marathon distance in training. The training plan I plan to follow starting in October doesn't have you cover any distance over 10 miles in training.

Did Sherman take over your account for a minute there? :lookaroun

Yeah, that's what I thought I'd read. Doug, you can save yourself the trouble of posting that we shouldn't do what you do, your disclaimer, I get it :lol

But I'll still probably follow your lead on this one :lookaroun :goofy

[Doug11]

If you take creatine, you had better drink LOTS of water. My son takes creatine to supplement his muscle building when weight lifting and if he forgets to drink enough water he cramps up badly, not to mention the effect the creatine has on poop. It sucks up all the moisture in your body, so be warned.

As for gels, they are good at the 45 minute to 1 hour mark of a workout. Personally, I take a gel at the 1 hour mark and then 1 every 45 minutes for the duration of my run. That has worked out pretty well for me.

[BeeJay]

Did Sherman take over your account for a minute there? :lookaroun


I had to read it again to see what the heck you were talking about. :lol

[Hooker]

As for gels, they are good at the 45 minute to 1 hour mark of a workout. Personally, I take a gel at the 1 hour mark and then 1 every 45 minutes for the duration of my run. That has worked out pretty well for me.
Spot on with the gels for timing. You may have to experiment with a few to find ones that you like. Some are ok, some are downright nasty. If you get Power Bar gels, I like the latte ones the best--the thinner they are, the easier they go down. Vanilla and strawberry/banana are ok too. None of them are great, but they work. Chocolate is the worst--too thick, makes you gag. If you use Clif shots, I think all of them are nasty.

Doug--your likes/dislikes?

[Doug11]

My preferences are the strawberry/banana. I went out of my way to get a latte gel at the Disney Marathon because Kirsten had said it was good, but I didn't like it at all. :no That was the only one I've ever had that I regretted. (Not that any of them are a good snack when you're sitting around the house watching Top Chef) :lol

[Garyhoov]

The experts seem to say not to run the full 13 miles, but I did notice last year that when I hit 10 miles (which was the longest I had trained), I felt like I was seriously running out of gas. There's a good chance it was psychological . . . also, it doesn't help that the looooooong ramp up to the overpass leading into EPCOT hits around 10 miles.:lookaroun

. . . either way, I found myself sort of wishing I had trained a little longer. I don't know all the science behind the experts advice, but it seems to me that, if you have time, doing a couple 16 mile runs couldn't hurt in terms of giving you some real confidence going into the event. Sort of like swinging a baseball bat with a donut weight.:shrug

I've got a problem that I'm afraid may set me back. Saturday night, I was headed to the bathroom around 3:00 am in a strange hotel room and I SMASHED my toe into Ryan's suitcase . . . which likely would have gone flying if it wasn't braced by a chair.

By the time Linda and Ryan woke up, I told them I thought I might have broken my toe. It hurt like crazy, but it looked fine, so I decided to just try to walk around on it and see if it loosened up. We spent the day walking around Manhatten with me limping the whole way. When we got back, I pulled off my sock and my toe was DARK purple.:blush

. . . in some ways, at that point I at least felt good that it looked as bad as it felt so I didn't feel like I was being a pansy.:lookaroun

. . . but now I'm not quite sure where it stands. I didn't walk as much today and it seems to feel a lot better - I'm wondering if the swelling is helping to immobilize it.

. . . anyway, in a best case I probably won't be able to run for a week or two. In a worse-case, it might be a lot longer than that.

[Hooker]

Oh yeah, 10 miles for a half is the recommended and 20-21 for a full. Why, I don't know. I'm doing an advanced plan for the half this year and my max run will be 14-15.

[Christy]

If you take creatine, you had better drink LOTS of water. My son takes creatine to supplement his muscle building when weight lifting and if he forgets to drink enough water he cramps up badly, not to mention the effect the creatine has on poop. It sucks up all the moisture in your body, so be warned.

As for gels, they are good at the 45 minute to 1 hour mark of a workout. Personally, I take a gel at the 1 hour mark and then 1 every 45 minutes for the duration of my run. That has worked out pretty well for me.
Thanks for the head's up... I'd read that creatine for running is recommended for short distance runners who would want more muscle mass, rather than long distance, who would want to be leaner and lighter. So I'll just stick with my multis and fish oils and extra D... and CoQ10... :lookaroun and whey protein added to my oatmeal :lookaroun


The experts seem to say not to run the full 13 miles, but I did notice last year that when I hit 10 miles (which was the longest I had trained), I felt like I was seriously running out of gas. There's a good chance it was psychological . . . also, it doesn't help that the looooooong ramp up to the overpass leading into EPCOT hits around 10 miles.:lookaroun

. . . either way, I found myself sort of wishing I had trained a little longer. I don't know all the science behind the experts advice, but it seems to me that, if you have time, doing a couple 16 mile runs couldn't hurt in terms of giving you some real confidence going into the event. Sort of like swinging a baseball bat with a donut weight.:shrug

I've got a problem that I'm afraid may set me back. Saturday night, I was headed to the bathroom around 3:00 am in a strange hotel room and I SMASHED my toe into Ryan's suitcase . . . which likely would have gone flying if it wasn't braced by a chair.

By the time Linda and Ryan woke up, I told them I thought I might have broken my toe. It hurt like crazy, but it looked fine, so I decided to just try to walk around on it and see if it loosened up. We spent the day walking around Manhatten with me limping the whole way. When we got back, I pulled off my sock and my toe was DARK purple.:blush

. . . in some ways, at that point I at least felt good that it looked as bad as it felt so I didn't feel like I was being a pansy.:lookaroun

. . . but now I'm not quite sure where it stands. I didn't walk as much today and it seems to feel a lot better - I'm wondering if the swelling is helping to immobilize it.

. . . anyway, in a best case I probably won't be able to run for a week or two. In a worse-case, it might be a lot longer than that.

Craaaaap! Toes are So easy to break. Dang. Well, hopefully only a minor setback.

Well, construction workers be darned, I'm doing my loop twice to make it 3.5 miles tomorrow. And if I get up and it is 60 again like it was today (which made it SUPER easy) I might go for 4. Getting all kinds of crazy around here! :circles

[Christy]

Counting in the cooldown walk, I did 3.74 miles today :D Which, I have to remember that stopwatch, because I don't know how long that takes me, so total from leaving to getting home was about 45ish minutes, putting me at a 12 minute mile pace.

Anyway, funny story, I have yet to make a running playlist (on my to do list :lookaroun as soon as my Kid Rock cd's get here... that's right, cd's, because that jerk doesn't have anything on itunes! :mad) anyway, I just shuffle through our 1100+ songs the entire time, but it always seems to be that just when I feel a lung trying to make its way out my left nostril, this comes on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6txOvK-mAk&feature=related

:rotfl Every. TIME! It's so very epic/hilarious. :rotfl :lookaroun

[Garyhoov]

Counting in the cooldown walk, I did 3.74 miles today :D Which, I have to remember that stopwatch, because I don't know how long that takes me, so total from leaving to getting home was about 45ish minutes, putting me at a 12 minute mile pace.

Anyway, funny story, I have yet to make a running playlist (on my to do list :lookaroun as soon as my Kid Rock cd's get here... that's right, cd's, because that jerk doesn't have anything on itunes! :mad) anyway, I just shuffle through our 1100+ songs the entire time, but it always seems to be that just when I feel a lung trying to make its way out my left nostril, this comes on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6txOvK-mAk&feature=related

:rotfl Every. TIME! It's so very epic/hilarious. :rotfl :lookaroun

:rotfl

After avoiding getting an MP3 player for a long time, I finally bought one a couple years ago for running. I put something like 1000 songs on it and then, the first time I actually took it running, the first song that came up as "Born to Run" . . . so I thought that must have been some kind of sign.:goofy

[Christy]

:lol I'd say so. :goofy

The one time I ran without, as I said, it wasn't bad, I must pace myself to my music, that's the only thing I can come up with :lol Well, now the weather has been AMAZING (running in the 60's at 6:45 as opposed to it being 88 when I'd get out at 5:30 a.m. in AZ, the difference is astounding :rotfl ) the runs themselves feel pretty good. Well, I should give myself a little credit, I may just be in better shape, too :lol

I remember when Oprah was training for a marathon, she said she uses that time to meditate. :blink That woman is batshit crazy :rotfl

[BeeJay]

I remember when Oprah was training for a marathon, she said she uses that time to meditate. :blink That woman is batshit crazy :rotfl

Apparently she's not alone. I remember Phonedave over on Magic talking about this book: http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Art-Running-Making-Peace/dp/1598699601

Apparently the trick is once you make peace with the fact that your knee hurts and you really need some water and might have to pee at the same time :shrug and it's too hot out here and you're having trouble breathing a little bit and shit, you just ran through dog crap....you open yourself up to all sorts of spiritual epiphanies. :lookaroun

[BeeJay]

I'm curious what everyone's plans are for the whole week, not just the marathon. I've literally paid for and planned nothing but the race. At this point, I have no idea whether I'll just show up for a day or two or turn this into a real vacation. I'd like to see the new HP land at IOA, at least, and maybe spend a day at Epcot. What is the extent of the group itinerary for this, and how many of you are going to play this up as a full vacation?

[Garyhoov]

I'm curious what everyone's plans are for the whole week, not just the marathon. I've literally paid for and planned nothing but the race. At this point, I have no idea whether I'll just show up for a day or two or turn this into a real vacation. I'd like to see the new HP land at IOA, at least, and maybe spend a day at Epcot. What is the extent of the group itinerary for this, and how many of you are going to play this up as a full vacation?

Linda and I are arriving Friday and leaving Wednesday, so I'd call it a mini-vacation. Enough to hit the Disney parks, but we probably won't spread out much beyond there (I'm curious about Harry Potter, but I'm figuring the lines are likely to still be long).

Linda got me a hot-air balloon ride last year and this year we're thinking we'll do that together. I'd sort of like to check out the full marathon, but we'll probably schedule the ride for Sunday so that we can push it off depending on weather (last year it was too windy so I booked the balloon trip for Sunday but then it was cancelled. I went to look for Brad, Scott and Doug along the marathon route near Animal Kingdom . . . but never saw any of them.:goofy

I assume we're going to do our second annual get-together at the ESPN club Saturday afternoon, so make sure you leave space in your schedule for that.

[Christy]

I have no itinerary yet, I don't even know who else will be going. I've registered and paid, and I am training. It may be the Monday before that I am actually able to figure out how this is going to work out. :lol Obviously I'd like to spend a little extra time, if I can :)

[Doug11]

Leslie and I are planning to come down on Friday and stay through Monday, maybe returning home Tuesday. We haven't booked a hotel because we have a friend who says we are welcome to stay at her place in Wyndemere. She may change her mind when we are getting up in the middle of the night to go to the half marathon on Saturday morning. :lol

And we may be driving this year instead of flying. :shrug

Emily wants us to take her (and friends) to Disney for her 21st birthday in December when exams get out, so with the marathon weekend following so closely, we probably won't go back to the Disney parks (except for me to take advantage of free admission on Monday :D ) The only thing that seems certain other than the races is the luncheon meet up after the half marathon. :)

[Hooker]

I'm curious what everyone's plans are for the whole week, not just the marathon. I've literally paid for and planned nothing but the race. At this point, I have no idea whether I'll just show up for a day or two or turn this into a real vacation. I'd like to see the new HP land at IOA, at least, and maybe spend a day at Epcot. What is the extent of the group itinerary for this, and how many of you are going to play this up as a full vacation?Probably showing up on Friday and then leaving after we have lunch on Saturday. I will not miss lunch together with all my imaginary friends.

[BeeJay]

Great. So lunch is a for sure. I'm going to have to check with my mom. She's shown some interest in seeing HP, but...she has a time-tested habit of saying "we should go to Orlando" and doing absolutely nothing to follow through. :lol If it's just me, I might just dip in for the weekend.

[Christy]

It will probably depend on flights for how long I stay. :dunno Playing it by ear, like I said:)

[Christy]

Seems Andy knows what he's talking about... sometimes :lookaroun

He said my knee pain wouldn't be "runner's knee" but patellar femoral syndrome... which I was SO proud I was able to remember to look up this morning :king

He said "girls" get it a lot because their knees don't "track right". (Girls... :girly ) So I found this: http://www.ehow.com/about_5465652_patellar-femoral-syndrome.html

which said this:

Corrections
•The main strategy of treatment is to eliminate the mal-tracking of the patella. Any one of the following may be needed: orthotic shoe inserts, as if to straighten a load-bearing column; stretching the hamstrings and outside quadriceps; strengthening the hip muscles with leg lifts; and strengthening the inner quadriceps (vastus medialis) with slow, medium-weight leg extensions. The correction to cold exposure is to cover up the knee with fleece or neoprene if necessary


Already got the orthotics, need to work on the strengthening and stretching now. Which I am doing today. My plan is run M, T, Th, F, stretch/strengthen workout on W and Sat.

[Garyhoov]

Seems Andy knows what he's talking about... sometimes :lookaroun

He said my knee pain wouldn't be "runner's knee" but patellar femoral syndrome... which I was SO proud I was able to remember to look up this morning :king

He said "girls" get it a lot because their knees don't "track right". (Girls... :girly ) So I found this: http://www.ehow.com/about_5465652_patellar-femoral-syndrome.html

which said this:

Already got the orthotics, need to work on the strengthening and stretching now. Which I am doing today. My plan is run M, T, Th, F, stretch/strengthen workout on W and Sat.

:thumbs

It seems like that might improve as you progress. The more you run, the more you'll strengthen the stabilizing muscles and the more your technique and flow will improve.

I sometimes like turning the treadmill up to where I can barely keep up to see how my legs try to move to stay with it. I figure if I really push it, my body has no choice but to try to move in the most efficient way possible, so if I can make a conscious effort to move similarly when I'm running at slower paces, it might help me to get a natural, efficient stride . . . at least that's the theory.:goofy

[Christy]

:lol well it makes sense.

I do feel a little less clumsy than when I started. :lol When I first started out it seemed like I couldn't even keep a straight line :blink

And what's with all the showoffs in the neighborhood. Walking the dog the other night, a guy passed me just FLYING, I mean, to me, it would've been a sprint. :rotfl He was my dad's age, easy. :blink

And then of course the lady running by me yesterday morning. Hey, you, blondie in the sportsbra and shorts, with the washboard abs, this is MY turf :mad :lookaroun

[Christy]

The Columbus half marathon is in mid-October. Could I be ready by then? :dunno

[xfkirsten]

Up until I did the Disney Half, the farthest I'd ever run was the Tower of Terror 13k - about 8 miles. :D (It doesn't help that I got bronchitis right as my training should have been building up!)

Didn't get monies in time to register for the Wine and Dine Half, but I'm thinking I may do the Space Coast Half in November. It's Thanksgiving weekend, but as it's a Sunday I think I should already be off on that day, anyways... unless they give me a 6-day week. :/ (I'd do the full, but I think it's just too close to the Disney Marathon)

As far as plans for January... I'm here all the time! :lol I usually have Sat/Sun off, though I may take more that week for recovery time. :)

[Christy]

Yeah, the more I read... and listen to you guys :blush the more I realize I had this figured wrong :lol I assumed you kept building and building, each run. It seems like people run decent distances during the week, but nothing crazy, and a long run on the weekend? :dunno Still, I'd like my average workout to be more than 3 miles, I think, even if training for nothing. :lol Once I get myself to where I am right now, as far as being in shape, if I drop to less than 40 minutes of pretty decent exercise I get kinda fidgety and grouchy :lol it's weird.

Anyway, I weighed myself this morning, I've gained 2 pounds. :blink I'm not gonna lie, I'm kinda mad about it. Because unless somebody's slipping me steroids in my sleep, I do not think there's any way that can be muscle. :lookaroun My best hope is for it to be water. :lol

[Hooker]

Christy, when I'm mailed my first training schedule, I'll send it to you. You don't have to use it, but it will give you an idea of what training looks like. You've got the basics down--4 to 5 days a week, a long run on the weekend, and don't forget about some cross-training in there too. Walking counts!

[Christy]

If walking counts, I'm logging about 6 miles a day :lol I do my run in the morning (3.75 miles today) and I walk the dog at night, usually a bit over 2 miles.

Maybe I AM gaining all that muscle :lookaroun :lol

Yeah, I'm throwing in a couple of days for cross training.

[Garyhoov]

I wouldn't get too hung up on the details. If you're able to get out there and run 4 miles at a 12 minutes per mile pace, then you're doing great, and, with a little more training between now and January and some longer runs, you shouldn't have any problem with the half-marathon.

[Doug11]

Kirsten, I had the same issue. I was on the fence about whether to come down for the Wine & Dine, but decided last minute to register when I heard it was 85% full. I went to the Disney endurance website only to find it was full, which didn't bother me too much, honestly. :lol

There is a NASA / space marathon and half marathon here on Thanksgiving also. I ran the half last year and it was a good tuneup for the full Disney a month later

Gary, I don't know about your expectations for time/pace this year, but it sounds like Christy is going to leave me in her dust! :lol

[Garyhoov]

Gary, I don't know about your expectations for time/pace this year, but it sounds like Christy is going to leave me in her dust! :lol

I'm thinking I'll probably run with Linda, so I'll have an excuse when Christy kicks my butt.:lookaroun

[Doug11]

An official finishing time in the Disney Marathon plus THIS gets you a free day of any one park admission on the Monday after the Marathon:

http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/ewwos/images/events/wdw-marathon/wdw-marathon-intro-media.png

Yay, that's the design I voted for. :D If . . . err. . . when I finish the marathon, I will have two separate and distinct medals from the Disney marathon. :king

[Doug11]

for anybody needing a little training boost . . . I know I do, and it helped:

http://espnwwos.disney.go.com/events/endurance/wdw-marathon

click the video!

[Christy]

for anybody needing a little training boost . . . I know I do, and it helped:

http://espnwwos.disney.go.com/events/endurance/wdw-marathon

click the video!

Cool! :thumbs

[Garyhoov]

for anybody needing a little training boost . . . I know I do, and it helped:

http://espnwwos.disney.go.com/events/endurance/wdw-marathon

click the video!

:thumbs

When I see videos like that, it gives me a feeling of excitement . . . and dread:lookaroun at the same time.

[Christy]

:rotfl I feel much better, myself!

All the pictures that I seem to see are at the starting areas, where there are thousands of people smashed on top of each other. Makes me claustrophobic. I actually saw space between all the people running here. I feel better now :lol

[Garyhoov]

:rotfl I feel much better, myself!

All the pictures that I seem to see are at the starting areas, where there are thousands of people smashed on top of each other. Makes me claustrophobic. I actually saw space between all the people running here. I feel better now :lol

It's not bad at all. The people at the very front who are going for times get crammed together, but you'll be near the back and you'll be walking for 20 minutes before you even hit the start line. There are a lot of people around but they're not real crammed in and things flow pretty nicely.

Your biggest problem will probably be what I saw my first time. Between approximately miles 4-6, the people who were slower than me but ahead of me clogged things up.

Once you get past the Magic Kingdom, things really open up (but be careful, because that's where I got cocky and was feeling like "Hey! I'm actually going to do this thing!" ). That feeling combined with the freedom of not having as many people around me got me running too fast. Then, when I was within a few miles of EPCOT, things got really hard.

[Christy]

Well that's good, it takes about 20 minutes for me to feel warmed up and loose, and for my knees to stop creaking :lol

But they don't start your time til you've crossed the start line, right?

Pacing, I would imagine, is really going to be the biggest challenge.

[xfkirsten]

An official finishing time in the Disney Marathon plus THIS gets you a free day of any one park admission on the Monday after the Marathon:

A free day at Disney? SWEET!!! ...wait a minute... DOH.

/CMs get screwed :(

[Christy]

Going for 4.6 miles tomorrow. Wish me luck :blink :lol

[BeeJay]

Going for 4.6 miles tomorrow. Wish me luck :blink :lol

Good luck! Just let it come to you. Don't force anything.

[Christy]

I made it I made it! :circles And I didn't feel like I wanted to die! :king

[Christy]

These "hills" people seem to want to incorporate into their running, do you guys do that? I know Brad does, I saw on facebook. But Brad's pretty much out of his mind :lookaroun :goofy

Anyway, there's an overpass that I could turn into a "hill" that would fit into maybe a 3 mile run once I go down and come back that road, is that hilly enough? :lol Seems more of a gradual incline and decline... easy to say when it's always been the minivan doing the work though :lol

[BeeJay]

Hills are the devil. :mad

They're absolutely unavoidable in my neighborhood.

[Hooker]

Well that's good, it takes about 20 minutes for me to feel warmed up and loose, and for my knees to stop creaking :lol

But they don't start your time til you've crossed the start line, right?

Pacing, I would imagine, is really going to be the biggest challenge.Time starts for you when your race chip crosses the start line.


These "hills" people seem to want to incorporate into their running, do you guys do that? I know Brad does, I saw on facebook. But Brad's pretty much out of his mind :lookaroun :goofy

Anyway, there's an overpass that I could turn into a "hill" that would fit into maybe a 3 mile run once I go down and come back that road, is that hilly enough? :lol Seems more of a gradual incline and decline... easy to say when it's always been the minivan doing the work though :lolHills depend on how serious you are about training. I use a pedestrian overpass down here since hills are non-existent two miles from the Gulf.

[Christy]

Well, Ohio can be hilly, but not in this neighborhood :lol Overpass for me, too, which means making my way through the roundabout :blink Hopefully this early it won't be too hard to not die.

Time to pound some pavement :wave

[Doug11]

Running outside in this heat/humidity right now is not for the faint of heart. I was up at 5:30 and could hardly breathe outside


Apparently, I am faint of heart :lol.

August already? :faint

[Christy]

I know... the 5k I intended to run was yesterday, totally forgot about it :blush It was August 1st, that's lightyears away, isn't it? :lol

Weather's been quite pleasant here :lookaroun At least if you make it out early enough. The overpass wasn't bad, I made pretty decent time, but the roundabout was kind of a pain, they have it set up for runners, still hav eto stop and wait for cars.

[BeeJay]

August already? :faint

On the one hand, it means we only have 5 months left to train. On the other, it means that this BLASTED heat should start breaking within a few weeks. :)

Confession time: I'm seriously considering just swinging for the fences and running the full marathon in January instead of the half. I found an 18-week training plan that I feel like I could handle the first week of at this point. I'm going to do the first week on a trial basis this week and make sure I'm not over-estimating where I am physically. I would love to run through all 4 parks and get that gold Mickey in January if my body will cooperate. :D

[BeeJay]

I know... the 5k I intended to run was yesterday, totally forgot about it :blush It was August 1st, that's lightyears away, isn't it? :lol

*snort* Nice! :lol

[Hooker]

On the one hand, it means we only have 5 months left to train. On the other, it means that this BLASTED heat should start breaking within a few weeks. :)

Confession time: I'm seriously considering just swinging for the fences and running the full marathon in January instead of the half. I found an 18-week training plan that I feel like I could handle the first week of at this point. I'm going to do the first week on a trial basis this week and make sure I'm not over-estimating where I am physically. I would love to run through all 4 parks and get that gold Mickey in January if my body will cooperate. :DWith a positive attitude like that, just do the Goofy!

[Christy]

On the one hand, it means we only have 5 months left to train. On the other, it means that this BLASTED heat should start breaking within a few weeks. :)

Confession time: I'm seriously considering just swinging for the fences and running the full marathon in January instead of the half. I found an 18-week training plan that I feel like I could handle the first week of at this point. I'm going to do the first week on a trial basis this week and make sure I'm not over-estimating where I am physically. I would love to run through all 4 parks and get that gold Mickey in January if my body will cooperate. :D

Oh wow! Well, good luck, if you decide to go for it. You seem to have progressed REALLY fast (but again, my brain is stuck back in May :rotfl ) so I wouldn't see why it'd be a problem :dunno

[BeeJay]

With a positive attitude like that, just do the Goofy!

I'm leaving that one to the Law Man!

[Garyhoov]

With a positive attitude like that, just do the Goofy!


*Translation* - "If you're that crazy, why not just kill yourself so we can get your damaged DNA out of the gene-pool?":lookaroun

[Hooker]

*Translation* - "If you're that crazy, why not just kill yourself so we can get your damaged DNA out of the gene-pool?":lookarounWinner, winner, chicken dinner! :rotfl

[Christy]

Well it seems we are probably keeping tabs on each other through facebook and daily mile :lol but I'll go ahead and check in here :goofy

I did 4 miles this morning (:yahoo) If you'd told me 6 months ago I'd be able to run 4 miles and feel good afterwards I'd have thought you were insane! But I did... my back and legs are sore, but I'm fairly certain that's from hoisting Leah up on my back for the concert Saturday, not from the run :lookaroun

I can feel myself falling into a potential overtraining situation. I feel like a day I don't run is a day wasted. But I will keep reminding myself that tearing something or overexerting or ruining my knees won't get me any faster or further. So tomorrow is my strength training day.

I also was thinking maybe after volleyball is done (and the weather gets colder) I'd get a gym membership for Kaitlyn and myself. :dunno Keep her in shape between seasons and myself too.

[Hooker]

2-3 days of rest per week.

[Garyhoov]

Well it seems we are probably keeping tabs on each other through facebook and daily mile :lol but I'll go ahead and check in here :goofy

I did 4 miles this morning (:yahoo) If you'd told me 6 months ago I'd be able to run 4 miles and feel good afterwards I'd have thought you were insane! But I did... my back and legs are sore, but I'm fairly certain that's from hoisting Leah up on my back for the concert Saturday, not from the run :lookaroun

I can feel myself falling into a potential overtraining situation. I feel like a day I don't run is a day wasted. But I will keep reminding myself that tearing something or overexerting or ruining my knees won't get me any faster or further. So tomorrow is my strength training day.

I also was thinking maybe after volleyball is done (and the weather gets colder) I'd get a gym membership for Kaitlyn and myself. :dunno Keep her in shape between seasons and myself too.

:thumbs


I don't think I ever have to worry about over-training.:lookaroun

I also don't think I'll ever say I feel good after running 4 miles. It's always a miserable pain in the ass to me. Just slightly less miserable on some days.:huh

[Christy]

I think the trick is taking my green tea supplement about a half hour before I start out :lookaroun I take my multi, my green tea (because I can't stand drinking the stuff :ew ) and my niacin (high cholesterol :blush ) before I run, and then my ibuprofin, fish oil capsules, and CoQ10 in the evening. :rotfl

I am turning into my grandma :goofy At least they're all over the counter supplements still, and not prescriptions.

[xfkirsten]

So, on a whim, I put myself on the wait list for the Wine and Dine half... and got an e-mail today that a spot opened up! Now I need money again! :lol: